June 15, 2025


Richard Grenell Discusses Cancel Culture, ‘Normal Gays,’ and Friendship with Melania Trump in Politico Interview

Within the grandeur of the Kennedy Center’s Grand Foyer, Richard Grenell, a pivotal figure in the Trump administration, recently sat down with Politico’s Dasha Burns for an expansive dialogue covering topics from cancel culture to his potential gubernatorial ambitions in California. Grenell, who juggles roles as a special presidential envoy and director of one of Washington's premier arts institutions, shared his candid thoughts on the prevailing political climate and personal anecdotes from his dynamic career.

Grenell criticized what he perceives as a prevailing intolerance emanating from the political left. “Everyone should be welcome. No one should be booed. No one should be banned,” he asserted, emphasizing inclusivity in both political and social spheres. His comments extend to his views on Pride parades and the LGBTQ+ community, where he believes there is room for improvement. According to Grenell, the community "has to police itself" to foster a truly inclusive atmosphere.

The conversation also touched upon the Trump administration's foreign and domestic policies, including ongoing discussions with Russia and stringent immigration enforcement. Amidst swirling rumors of a decline in the Kennedy Center’s ticket sales and subscriptions, Grenell confidently refuted these claims, directing attention to statements from the institution’s CFO and SVP of Marketing, which affirm the center's robust financial health.

Exploring his personal connections, Grenell spoke warmly of his friendship with First Lady Melania Trump, highlighting shared experiences and mutual respect that have deepened their bond over time.

The interview also set the stage for a broader discussion on the political landscape in California, where Grenell hinted at a possible run for governor. Politico’s senior political reporter, Melanie Mason, joined the conversation to shed light on the ongoing immigration protests in Los Angeles and Governor Gavin Newsom's opposition to President Trump’s military interventions.

Listeners eager to dive deeper into these discussions can find the full interview on "The Conversation with Dasha Burns," available on platforms like YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.

As Grenell continues to navigate his multifaceted roles within the political and cultural arenas, his insights offer a unique glimpse into the intersections of governance, society, and personal relationships at the highest levels of American politics.